Both of these are unmarked, labels have been removed. These measure approximately 57.5 from tip to base, and weigh approximately 17.5 oz each. Significant scratches, paint loss, and numerous scars to wood. One is missing approximately one inch of original wrap.The shaft missing the tip rolls pretty smooth. The shaft with the tip has a cracked ferrule, and is warped, does not roll smooth. Feel free to message me with any questions. Please be sure to examine all photos carefully as they are considered part of the description.